tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8356601405469434111.post356395066618256708..comments2024-01-01T19:49:13.788-08:00Comments on The Vigil: Rev. Jeremiah WrightVigilantehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07640246609540057997noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8356601405469434111.post-89714307640131587852008-03-19T21:47:00.000-07:002008-03-19T21:47:00.000-07:00Yeah, me too, Stella.Yeah, <a href="http://wizardfkap.blogspot.com/2008/03/politics-of-association.html" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow">me too</a>, Stella.Vigilantehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07640246609540057997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8356601405469434111.post-70732472821543087512008-03-19T20:14:00.000-07:002008-03-19T20:14:00.000-07:00Et tu, Vig?<a href="http://www.uuworld.org/ideas/articles/59987.shtml" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow"><i>Et tu</i></a>, Vig?Stella by Starlighthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16385761338190877425noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8356601405469434111.post-36085315986438722142008-03-18T18:35:00.000-07:002008-03-18T18:35:00.000-07:00Concerning Senator Obama's speech today. I saw...Concerning Senator Obama's speech today. I saw more honest feeling and humanity in Obama today than Hillary Clinton has shown in her entire public life. If you were really listening to his speech you heard a man that is able to understand both the good and bad of both the black and white sides of this divide. I loved my grandparents dearly but like Obama said about his grandmother I heard them say things about other groups that I did not believe. As for his preacher no person who goes to church can be honest with themselves and say that they have never heard their preacher mutter something that was off color are simply wrong. That does not make the preacher a bad person it just makes him or her human. Yes, preacher Wright said some things that I would cringe at but I thought one of the reasons we had guys and gals fighting in Iraq was to protect our freedom of speech.Beach Bumhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11000824454124236774noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8356601405469434111.post-50648847602639188392008-03-17T19:49:00.000-07:002008-03-17T19:49:00.000-07:00Utah, you are such a good conversationalist, I enc...Utah, you are such a good conversationalist, I encourage you to engage the Wizard on his own site (as long as you can do so without sacrificing your attention to my pages). Wiz is an old friendly adversary with whom I have had loads of slam-bam disagreements and huggy-kissy agreements over the years (it seems). When he's wrong (often) he's still thoughtful. He sets the bar very high when he's right.Vigilantehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07640246609540057997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8356601405469434111.post-43122320545807153522008-03-17T19:31:00.000-07:002008-03-17T19:31:00.000-07:00I think that Beach Bum hit the nail on the head. T...I think that Beach Bum hit the nail on the head. The media is really pitching a fit over this, but it went largely unnoticed when McCain embraced Jerry Falwell, who once said that the 9/11 terrorist attacks were due to our tolerance of homosexuals and feminists. Or when McCain courted John Hagee for a year, despite the fact that Hagee has made some anti-Catholic remarks, and blamed the destruction of New Orleans on (you guessed it) the gays. If we're going to apply guilt-by-association, can't we at least do it consistently?Samuel Brainsamplehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14217018965752604547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8356601405469434111.post-9133056634518217662008-03-17T12:45:00.000-07:002008-03-17T12:45:00.000-07:00Bileary is merely using Rethuglican tactics, which...Bileary is merely using Rethuglican tactics, which I'm sure she learned at the dirty hands of her money-grubbing masters.<br><br>I am utterly sick of this "Obama = Muslim" crap. In this country, freedom of religion is supposed to be a constitutional law. What if he is, what if he ain't?<br><br>Did I miss something? Whether Obama or Bileary gets the nomination, I still think we're in danger of Mad Max McBush winning with Lieberman in toe.<br><br>That's a truly chilling immage.Stella by Starlighthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16385761338190877425noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8356601405469434111.post-78609227311612199372008-03-17T08:06:00.000-07:002008-03-17T08:06:00.000-07:00In the future, candidates will hold "Pre-Reno...In the future, candidates will hold "<a href="http://guysfromarea51.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow">Pre-Renounce and Reject</a>" rallies to rid themselves of unpopular ideas and thoughts.Vigilantehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07640246609540057997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8356601405469434111.post-64230851854341778202008-03-16T18:30:00.000-07:002008-03-16T18:30:00.000-07:00Its convenient that many seem to have forgotten th...Its convenient that many seem to have forgotten that many of the right wing bible thumpers have their own sermonal skeletons in their closets concerning outrageous statements.Beach Bumhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11000824454124236774noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8356601405469434111.post-81422842576767706142008-03-16T12:49:00.000-07:002008-03-16T12:49:00.000-07:00Wizard, I agree with what you said so eloquently a...Wizard, I agree with what you said so eloquently about wanting to attend a service of Wright's. I, an old white woman, joined a black Baptist church here in Mittland, or Zion, as the Mormons call it, because they had a rocking band and great gospel choir and an intellectual and inspirational pastor who could raise the temperature and volume enough to scorch my shriveled soul. I still remain a humanist, not a deist. And sadly, I agree that Barack is doing the right thing with just the right tone and touch. God, has he got great instincts or what!Utah Savagehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16385093247915560752noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8356601405469434111.post-54088201531852182222008-03-16T09:43:00.000-07:002008-03-16T09:43:00.000-07:00You and I share some basic agreements on the issue...You and I share some basic agreements on <a href="http://wizardfkap.blogspot.com/2008/03/politics-of-association.html" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow"><b>the issue of Reverand Jeremiah Wright</b></a>. Wright's past sermons should not be a central issue of the campaign.<br><br><b><i>"So here is my view. We are not electing Jeremiah Wright President. I am deeply concerned about some of Wright's statements from the pulpit, but not from a Presidential politics perspective. I'll judge Barrack Obama from by his own words and his own actions, not by those of Reverend Jeremiah Wright."</i></b><br><br>But let's not think for a minute this is some sort of "Fox News" issue. I saw the virtually continous replays of Wright's sermons on MSNBC. In fact MSNBC went so far as to have "exclusive videos" many of which were more damaging than those on YouTube.<br><br>You are quite correct to place Reverand Wright's teaching and preaching in historic black context. I, for one, find him engaging and charismatic. I would love to attend his church and hear him preach (although I understand he is now retired and has preached his last sermon).<br><br>That doesn't make Wright's comments less hateful or less racist (or less ignorant). Barack Obama has rightly condemned those portions of Wright's preaching and has distanced himself from Wright. Obama should be praised for being both correct and politically savvy.<br><br>Sorry for the long reply.the WIZARD, fkaphttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18171655256407149176noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8356601405469434111.post-13831340028327585342008-03-16T09:26:00.000-07:002008-03-16T09:26:00.000-07:00In other words, Obama threw his own minister under...In other words, Obama threw his own minister under his campaign bus. If Hillary had done something like this, you'd be all over her.Yellow Doghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07240896921792157807noreply@blogger.com