These guy are shameless. Liars and criers. Artless as liars and crocodile criers. How an educated electorate could be taken in by these crooked, wicked and twisted clowns is beyond be. I just can't understand my own clusterfucking country
My recent Googling to nail down current polls as to the percentage of Americans who STILL think Iraq was involved in attacking us on 9-11 turned up some big surprises. You probably remember that originally there were fewer than 10% (including Richard Perle and friends) who, in the first weeks after 9/11, believed in any link. But in the span of about 16 months, Bush’s war drumbeat and Rumsfeld’s lies about the evidence being “bulletproof” were so successful, that by February 2003, they had 72% of all Americans believing Saddam was “personally involved in the September 11 attacks.” One poll at the time found that almost half of all Americans believed that one or more of the 9/11 hijackers WERE Iraqi and seventy-three percent believed that Saddam was currently helping al-Qaeda.
It wasn’t until September 2003 with polls still at 70% that Bush explicitly stated for the first time there was no evidence Saddam Hussein was involved in the September 1lth attacks. The percentage of blindly trusting Americans slowly began to drop. An April 2004 poll found that 57 percent of Americans surveyed believed that Iraq was helping Al Qaeda before the war, including 20 percent who believed Iraq was linked to the September 11th attacks. By the end of 2005, with more truth coming out about Bush’s pre-war deception, the numbers had dropped down even further. Only 41% of U.S. adults still believed that Saddam Hussein had "strong links to Al Qaeda."
But then, surprise, surprise! A big rebound occurs. A poll released in July 21, 2006—-the last one I could find—-went back up to 64% believing that Saddam Hussein had strong links to Al Qaeda. Worse still, according to a March 2, 2006, Zogby International Poll, 90% of American troops in Iraq believed that “they were fighting to avenge Saddam Hussein's role in 9/11."
I’m working on a longer piece trying to explain the continued vitality of this otherwise bad lie but suffice it to say Boehner’s crying act is part of the neo-con scheme that works to create its own reality.
I saw it with my own eyes, but I still don't believe it. Jeez, this guy is a real numbnutz. Swift said it all... over 300 years ago... *** His majesty, in another audience, was at the pains to recapitulate the sum of all I had spoken; compared the questions he made with the answers I had given; then taking me into his hands, and stroking me gently, delivered himself in these words, which I shall never forget, nor the manner he spoke them in: “My little friend Grildrig, you have made a most admirable panegyric upon your country; you have clearly proved, that ignorance, idleness, and vice, are the proper ingredients for qualifying a legislator; that laws are best explained, interpreted, and applied, by those whose interest and abilities lie in perverting, confounding, and eluding them. I observe among you some lines of an institution, which, in its original, might have been tolerable, but these half erased, and the rest wholly blurred and blotted by corruptions. It does not appear, from all you have said, how any one perfection is required toward the procurement of any one station among you; much less, that men are ennobled on account of their virtue; that priests are advanced for their piety or learning; soldiers, for their conduct or valour; judges, for their integrity; senators, for the love of their country; or counsellors for their wisdom. As for yourself,” continued the king, “who have spent the greatest part of your life in travelling, I am well disposed to hope you may hitherto have escaped many vices of your country. But by what I have gathered from your own relation, and the answers I have with much pains wrung and extorted from you, I cannot but conclude the bulk of your natives to be the most pernicious race of little odious vermin that nature ever suffered to crawl upon the surface of the earth.” Gulliver's Travels, Book II ~~Jonathan Swift
Who needs enemies like al Quaeda when you have friends like this lost soul! What I find really disturbing is the fact, that not only is he somewhat suspect on his reasoning, knowledge and communication but that he is in the position of power, voted by Americans, to lead them and chart the course which your country should be following.
My goodness, I fully realize that there are cultural differences between me and you, the Americans, but I put it to you - this sorry character could never be elected anywhere in Europe to become a dog catcher.
And while I am at it, I also draw your attention to the need for you to elect only those whom have the greatest of religious credentials. No matter what, that's the number one criteria to select anybody for anything. Surely, it has to be all around hypocrisy running wild among you because otherwise it would be too bizarre. At the drop of a hat, what ever is the venue, what ever is the agenda, prayer meeting can break out without any warning. From where I look at you, you are the only Western theocracy!
All very good posts here. Ha ha. What a new low America has sunk down into. It makes a person wonder, just what is going to happen next? We seem to be spinning out of control. This Political system is unhinged. There is a lot of 'money' at stake here though. That is why the 'money' was voted on through to fund the 'war' We are on the verge of a chaotic situation in America.
Stella, whenever you let Swift Speak through your lips, you take my breath away!
Coleen, What you posted up is already a stand-alone item. Very interesting. Looking forward to whatever's coming, for sure!
Pekka, as an unconsolable and unrepentant American nationalist, until only recently proud of my once-great country, I now look forward to your tongue lashings because I have found a way of accepting them. As soon as I see you approaching, I rush to strip my shirt off, find my belt with the biggest buckle, and go out in the mid-day sun and flagellate myself like some crazed Shi'ia, so that I might not feel your barbs as much when I read them. From now on, I look forward to them! You never disappoint!
And Skip, (bless your ideological mind), In this context, I agree with you. Let us form a popular front! Bring on the chaos, by all bloody means (and otherwise!). Yes to Constitutional crisis. Yes, to impeachment. Yes to deadlock! No to funding!
I recall from my Russian studies, Maxim Gorky's poem, The Song of the Stormy Petrel (1901). Written in the foreshadowing of the Russian Revolution of 1905, it was suppressed by the Czarist government because Gorky's allegory of the perfect storm was clear to everyone: Gorky was saying of the coming revolution, "Bring it on!" I beg your indulgence:
High above the silvery ocean winds are gathering the storm-clouds, and between the clouds and ocean proudly wheels the Stormy Petrel, like a streak of sable lightning.
Now his wing the wave caresses, now he rises like an arrow, cleaving clouds and crying fiercely, while the clouds detect a rapture in the bird's courageous crying.
In that crying sounds a craving for the tempest! Sounds the flaming of his passion, of his anger, of his confidence in triumph.
The gulls are moaning in their terror--moaning, darting o'er the waters, and would gladly hide their horror in the inky depths of ocean.
And the grebes are also moaning. Not for them the nameless rapture of the struggle. They are frightened by the crashing of the thunder.
And the foolish penguins cower in the crevices of rocks, while alone the Stormy Petrel proudly wheels above the ocean, o'er the silver-frothing waters.
Ever lower, ever blacker, sink the storm clouds to the sea, and the singing waves are mounting in their yearning toward the thunder.
Strikes the thunder. Now the waters fiercely battle with the winds. And the winds in fury seize them in unbreakable embrace, hurtling down the emerald masses to be shattered on the cliffs.
Like a streak of sable lightning wheels and cries the Stormy Petrel, piercing storm-clouds like an arrow, cutting swiftly through the waters.
He is coursing like a Demon, the black Demon of the tempest, ever laughing, ever sobbing--he is laughing at the storm-clouds, he is sobbing with his rapture.
In the crashing of the thunder the wise Demon hears a murmur of exhaustion. And he is knows the storm will die and the sun will be triumphant; the sun will always be triumphant!
The waters roar. The thunder crashes. Livid lightning flares in storm clouds high above the seething ocean, and the flaming darts are captured and extinguished by the waters, while the serpentine reflections writhe, expiring, in the deep.
It's the storm! The storm is breaking!
Still the valiant Stormy Petrel proudly wheels around the lightning, o'er the roaring, raging ocean, and his cry resounds exultant, like a prophecy of triumph--
Let it break in all its fury!
Everyman has to believe in something. I believe I'll have another Corona.
What I find really disturbing is the fact, that not only is he somewhat suspect on his reasoning, knowledge and communication but that he is in the position of power, voted by Americans, to lead them and chart the course which your country should be following.
I saw this bit on the news and it didn't move me much.
What disturbs me is when a 19 year old boy is killed and the best thing his parent can say about him is "he never even got arrested". No, of course he didn't, not when his parent willing signed him into a combat unit in the middle of a pointless war when he was only 17 years old.
Convenient to have your directionless and wayward child die a hero so instead of being embarassed in front of your neighbors you can now proudly display his 8 x 10 glossy on the wall of the new doublewide you bought with the death benefits and forever more speak proudly of your son the dead hero.
This is something I saw a little too close to home a little too recently so if I'm sounding a little bitter and uncaring at the moment it's because I am.
With people like this amongst us why would I be surprised that we elect people like Boehner?
Yeah, I know, it's against the unwritten rules to say things like that but I'm way past caring about the rules.
Aw, vigilante, I'm blushing! A great anti-war read is Swift's Conduct of the Allies. I'd love to download the entire essay on our site, but it's too long. He was a wordsmith without peer.
Pekka? Where have you been? Of course, you are talking about religious fanatics. Anyone who's a fanatic is a danger to their society and themselves.
The notion that a radical is one who hates his country is naive and usually idiotic. He is, more likely, one who loves his country more than the rest of us, and is thus more disturbed than the rest of us when he sees it debauched. He is not a bad citizen turning to crime; he is a good citizen driven to despair.
Reverend G R Gleig, survived the First Anglo-Afghan War to write in 1843:
...a war begun for no wise purpose, carried on with a strange mixture of rashness and timidity, brought to a close after suffering and disaster, without much glory attached either to the government which directed, or the great body of troops which waged it. Not one benefit, political or military, has Britain acquired with this war. Our eventual evacuation of the country resembled the retreat of an army defeated.
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My once-great country's only hope was to remove Bush from office before his term expired to permit the early repair of the devastation he created. Now the USA is on life support.
These guy are shameless. Liars and criers. Artless as liars and crocodile criers. How an educated electorate could be taken in by these crooked, wicked and twisted clowns is beyond be. I just can't understand my own clusterfucking country
ReplyDeleteCrying Fuels the Lying"
ReplyDeleteMy recent Googling to nail down current polls as to the percentage of Americans who STILL think Iraq was involved in attacking us on 9-11 turned up some big surprises. You probably remember that originally there were fewer than 10% (including Richard Perle and friends) who, in the first weeks after 9/11, believed in any link. But in the span of about 16 months, Bush’s war drumbeat and Rumsfeld’s lies about the evidence being “bulletproof” were so successful, that by February 2003, they had 72% of all Americans believing Saddam was “personally involved in the September 11 attacks.” One poll at the time found that almost half of all Americans believed that one or more of the 9/11 hijackers WERE Iraqi and seventy-three percent believed that Saddam was currently helping al-Qaeda.
It wasn’t until September 2003 with polls still at 70% that Bush explicitly stated for the first time there was no evidence Saddam Hussein was involved in the September 1lth attacks. The percentage of blindly trusting Americans slowly began to drop. An April 2004 poll found that 57 percent of Americans surveyed believed that Iraq was helping Al Qaeda before the war, including 20 percent who believed Iraq was linked to the September 11th attacks. By the end of 2005, with more truth coming out about Bush’s pre-war deception, the numbers had dropped down even further. Only 41% of U.S. adults still believed that Saddam Hussein had "strong links to Al Qaeda."
But then, surprise, surprise! A big rebound occurs. A poll released in July 21, 2006—-the last one I could find—-went back up to 64% believing that Saddam Hussein had strong links to Al Qaeda. Worse still, according to a March 2, 2006, Zogby International Poll, 90% of American troops in Iraq believed that “they were fighting to avenge Saddam Hussein's role in 9/11."
I’m working on a longer piece trying to explain the continued vitality of this otherwise bad lie but suffice it to say Boehner’s crying act is part of the neo-con scheme that works to create its own reality.
I saw it with my own eyes, but I still don't believe it. Jeez, this guy is a real numbnutz. Swift said it all... over 300 years ago...
ReplyDelete***
His majesty, in another audience, was at the pains to recapitulate the sum of all I had spoken; compared the questions he made with the answers I had given; then taking me into his hands, and stroking me gently, delivered himself in these words, which I shall never forget, nor the manner he spoke them in: “My little friend Grildrig, you have made a most admirable panegyric upon your country; you have clearly proved, that ignorance, idleness, and vice, are the proper ingredients for qualifying a legislator; that laws are best explained, interpreted, and applied, by those whose interest and abilities lie in perverting, confounding, and eluding them. I observe among you some lines of an institution, which, in its original, might have been tolerable, but these half erased, and the rest wholly blurred and blotted by corruptions. It does not appear, from all you have said, how any one perfection is required toward the procurement of any one station among you; much less, that men are ennobled on account of their virtue; that priests are advanced for their piety or learning; soldiers, for their conduct or valour; judges, for their integrity; senators, for the love of their country; or counsellors for their wisdom. As for yourself,” continued the king, “who have spent the greatest part of your life in travelling, I am well disposed to hope you may hitherto have escaped many vices of your country. But by what I have gathered from your own relation, and the answers I have with much pains wrung and extorted from you, I cannot but conclude the bulk of your natives to be the most pernicious race of little odious vermin that nature ever suffered to crawl upon the surface of the earth.”
Gulliver's Travels, Book II
~~Jonathan Swift
Who needs enemies like al Quaeda when you have friends like this lost soul! What I find really disturbing is the fact, that not only is he somewhat suspect on his reasoning, knowledge and communication but that he is in the position of power, voted by Americans, to lead them and chart the course which your country should be following.
ReplyDeleteMy goodness, I fully realize that there are cultural differences between me and you, the Americans, but I put it to you - this sorry character could never be elected anywhere in Europe to become a dog catcher.
And while I am at it, I also draw your attention to the need for you to elect only those whom have the greatest of religious credentials. No matter what, that's the number one criteria to select anybody for anything. Surely, it has to be all around hypocrisy running wild among you because otherwise it would be too bizarre. At the drop of a hat, what ever is the venue, what ever is the agenda, prayer meeting can break out without any warning. From where I look at you, you are the only Western theocracy!
Over to you, my dear Vigil&CO!
All very good posts here. Ha ha.
ReplyDeleteWhat a new low America has sunk down into. It makes a person wonder, just what is going to happen next?
We seem to be spinning out of control. This Political system is unhinged.
There is a lot of 'money' at stake here though.
That is why the 'money' was voted on through to fund the 'war'
We are on the verge of a chaotic situation in America.
Boris, My sentiments 'xactly!
ReplyDeleteStella, whenever you let Swift Speak through your lips, you take my breath away!
Coleen, What you posted up is already a stand-alone item. Very interesting. Looking forward to whatever's coming, for sure!
Pekka, as an unconsolable and unrepentant American nationalist, until only recently proud of my once-great country, I now look forward to your tongue lashings because I have found a way of accepting them. As soon as I see you approaching, I rush to strip my shirt off, find my belt with the biggest buckle, and go out in the mid-day sun and flagellate myself like some crazed Shi'ia, so that I might not feel your barbs as much when I read them. From now on, I look forward to them! You never disappoint!
And Skip, (bless your ideological mind), In this context, I agree with you. Let us form a popular front! Bring on the chaos, by all bloody means (and otherwise!). Yes to Constitutional crisis. Yes, to impeachment. Yes to deadlock! No to funding!
I recall from my Russian studies, Maxim Gorky's poem, The Song of the Stormy Petrel (1901). Written in the foreshadowing of the Russian Revolution of 1905, it was suppressed by the Czarist government because Gorky's allegory of the perfect storm was clear to everyone: Gorky was saying of the coming revolution, "Bring it on!" I beg your indulgence:
High above the silvery ocean winds are gathering the storm-clouds, and between the clouds and ocean proudly wheels the Stormy Petrel, like a streak of sable lightning.
Now his wing the wave caresses, now he rises like an arrow, cleaving clouds and crying fiercely, while the clouds detect a rapture in the bird's courageous crying.
In that crying sounds a craving for the tempest! Sounds the flaming of his passion, of his anger, of his confidence in triumph.
The gulls are moaning in their terror--moaning, darting o'er the waters, and would gladly hide their horror in the inky depths of ocean.
And the grebes are also moaning. Not for them the nameless rapture of the struggle. They are frightened by the crashing of the thunder.
And the foolish penguins cower in the crevices of rocks, while alone the Stormy Petrel proudly wheels above the ocean, o'er the silver-frothing waters.
Ever lower, ever blacker, sink the storm clouds to the sea, and the singing waves are mounting in their yearning toward the thunder.
Strikes the thunder. Now the waters fiercely battle with the winds. And the winds in fury seize them in unbreakable embrace, hurtling down the emerald masses to be shattered on the cliffs.
Like a streak of sable lightning wheels and cries the Stormy Petrel, piercing storm-clouds like an arrow, cutting swiftly through the waters.
He is coursing like a Demon, the black Demon of the tempest, ever laughing, ever sobbing--he is laughing at the storm-clouds, he is sobbing with his rapture.
In the crashing of the thunder the wise Demon hears a murmur of exhaustion. And he is knows the storm will die and the sun will be triumphant; the sun will always be triumphant!
The waters roar. The thunder crashes. Livid lightning flares in storm clouds high above the seething ocean, and the flaming darts are captured and extinguished by the waters, while the serpentine reflections writhe, expiring, in the deep.
It's the storm! The storm is breaking!
Still the valiant Stormy Petrel proudly wheels around the lightning, o'er the roaring, raging ocean, and his cry resounds exultant, like a prophecy of triumph--
Let it break in all its fury!
Everyman has to believe in something. I believe I'll have another Corona.
What I find really disturbing is the fact, that not only is he somewhat suspect on his reasoning, knowledge and communication but that he is in the position of power, voted by Americans, to lead them and chart the course which your country should be following.
ReplyDeleteI saw this bit on the news and it didn't move me much.
What disturbs me is when a 19 year old boy is killed and the best thing his parent can say about him is "he never even got arrested". No, of course he didn't, not when his parent willing signed him into a combat unit in the middle of a pointless war when he was only 17 years old.
Convenient to have your directionless and wayward child die a hero so instead of being embarassed in front of your neighbors you can now proudly display his 8 x 10 glossy on the wall of the new doublewide you bought with the death benefits and forever more speak proudly of your son the dead hero.
This is something I saw a little too close to home a little too recently so if I'm sounding a little bitter and uncaring at the moment it's because I am.
With people like this amongst us why would I be surprised that we elect people like Boehner?
Yeah, I know, it's against the unwritten rules to say things like that but I'm way past caring about the rules.
Aw, vigilante, I'm blushing! A great anti-war read is Swift's Conduct of the Allies. I'd love to download the entire essay on our site, but it's too long. He was a wordsmith without peer.
ReplyDeletePekka? Where have you been? Of course, you are talking about religious fanatics. Anyone who's a fanatic is a danger to their society and themselves.