I need help. So, I thought I should get an early start by throwing open the floor for nominations!
Maybe part of the problem is my motivation. Making the ol' college try doesn't get me as far as it used to. Part of the problem is, of course, that the respectable, old-school Republicans are just too hard to find. There are slim pickings among the corrupt, perverted, nouveau, Neo-Con, chickenhawking, warmongering, GOP-bots which currently infest our imperial government today.
So, I'm posting this plea for help. We gotta find a live one before Friday is dead and gone! Addendum (Friday Night: Well, thanks the indisputible plurality delivered in the discussion (below) we are able to make a good selection for this week:
Gen. Colin Powell should get some props. Powell told Diane Sawyer on "Good Morning America" that he's still undecided about his presidential preference:
I'm looking at all three candidates, I know them all very, very well. I consider myself a friend of each and every one of them. And I have not decided who I will vote for yet.
Powell went out of his way to compliment Obama for his speech on race that followed in the aftermath of the Rev. Wright:
Rev. Wright is also somebody who has made enormous contributions in his community and has turned a lot of lives around. And so, I have to put that in context with these very offensive comments that he made, which I reject out of hand.
I think that Sen. Obama handled the issue well . . . he didn't look the other way. He didn't wait for the, for the, you know, for the storm to go over. He went on television, and I thought, gave a very, very thoughtful, direct speech. And he didn't abandon the minister who brought him closer to his faith.
It was a good (speech). I admired him for giving it. And I agreed with much of what he said.
Powell expressed concern over the burden an extended stay in Iraq would put on the troops and the country's military forces:
It's going to be far more than the 100,000 that Secretary [of Defense Robert] Gates was hoping for. It's going to be like 130,000 or 140,000. That is an extremely difficult burden for the United States Army, the United States Marine Corps, to keep up.
We have responsibilities in Afghanistan. And in some ways, Afghanistan is more difficult than Iraq. You have the tribal problems. You had drug lords running around ... and al Qaeda and the Taliban are making a resurgence.
I'll tell you what they're all going to face — whichever one of them becomes president on Jan. 21 of 2009 — they will face a military force, a United States military force, that cannot sustain, continue to sustain, 140,000 people deployed in Iraq, and the 20 (to) 25,000 people we have deployed in Afghanistan, and our other deployments.
I never thought I'd say this, but Ashcroft gets my vote too. The only one of the gang of thugs with an ounce of scruples. Excellent choice emily. He was also the one sick in the hospital that would not let Gonzales strong arm the acting Atty Gen. to say no to warrantless wiretaps, etc. Have I got that right? Quick before he dies. You can always use Colin Powell later when he endorses Obama.
For my money, I'll nominate General Powell's former chief of staff, Retired Army Colonel Lawrence Wilkerson. Col. Wilkerson is the guy who said of the GOP, "They Have Stolen My Party and I Want it Back!" Last night on Keith Olbermann's Countdown, the Colonel was firing all chambers:
I don’t believe Iraq is the central front in the war on terror. It is a civil war that we are currently mediating.
It (the surge) has not failed in terms of the strategic decision that he (Bush) and Vice-President Cheney reached in the summer of 2007. That was to put enough forces in Iraq, the commander in Iraq, and the ambassador in Iraq and use those forces and diplomacy to keep major damage from being done to the Republican party and further damage being done to the White House so that he can pass Iraq to the next president. I think that’s the strategic decision that they made and it looks like they are going to get away with it.
... irreparable damage being done to the fabric of the institutional army by multiple extended tours in Iraq. Among the symptoms are record suicide rates among veterans, a severe shortage of middle-rank soldiers (particularly captains), and lowered standards resulting in many new recruits lacking high school diplomas and having multiple criminal convictions, reminiscent of the worst days of the Vietnam War.
When Olbermann called the President on including several blatantly false statements in his address, Wilkerson finished the interview with this parting shot:
Keith, you are talking about an administration that treats the truth as if it was a commodity as disposable as plastic gloves.
Boris, don't be so quick to dismiss assassins. This is an old profession that could still do some good in the modern world. Think what good to millions in Zimbabwe would be done by a single, well-placed sniper bullet. Robert Mugabe is a good example of an utterly useless piece of human scum. Some people need killin'
Vig, I've come back to your place to thank you for the kind words on "Maggy." It's the first chapter of a novel.
What I really want to know now that I'm here is how you get petro to say half way intelligent things on your site, but he talks like a fourteen year old boy on mine. What the fucks up with that?
Wilkerson gets a nod from me, too. But Ashcroft deserves some creds, also. After all, his red flag was raised while he was in the service of the Wehrmacht, as opposed to after thoughts in the aftermath.
I have known John Ashcroft for years. He is quite capable but like Bush he is blinded by religious fervor. He is a Jesus Jumper Extraordinaire and this has clouded his judgment and good common sense time and again.
It is really tough to think of a good republican and I know there has to be a few so I will go with Wilkerson for that remark alone if for nothing else.
Petro I agree with you. Some people just need killin'....
Well, I think I'll follow tomcat's suggestion: it's a good one. My nominee is Dwight D. Eisenhower:
* Oversaw the cease-fire of the Korean War.
* Enlarged the Social Security program.
* Began the Interstate Highway System.
* Supported the 1954 Brown v. Board of Education of Topeka U.S. Supreme Court decision, in which segregated ("separate but equal") schools were ruled to be unconstitutional.
* He described the Cold War saying: "We face a hostile ideology global in scope, atheistic in character, ruthless in purpose and insidious in method..." and warned about what he saw as unjustified government spending proposals and continued with a warning that "we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex... Only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and goals, so that security and liberty may prosper together."
Why respect a republican or a democrat... both are out to destroy America. Both are run by the same globalism cabal. There is virtually no difference between them. Only in name. The exact same special interest groups control both.
Why would any one respect a politician ? The only thing they are interested in is giving you the shaft. No doubt this little message will fall on deaf ears.
Closed or not I'm with Stella. I forgot about Ike. I was actually going to say Nixon on my earlier post just to gauge the reaction but decided against it. I must say, however, other than being a vulgar crook he did do some good things:-)
Thanks, madmike. You are right about Nixon's foreign policy.
Petro, I challenge you to name a living Republican. Even you cited Charlton Heston as the nominee for "Respect-a-Repulican" day. Uh, word. He's dead, too.
I can name two. John Dean, but I think he wised up and became a liberal after getting slammed by Nixon. I don't agree with his politics, but Ben Stein does crack me up. ("Bueller!")
There. Let's see how well you can do, Petro. Good luck: you'll need it.
Politics, regardless of what label it goes under, is fundamentally concerned with the manipulation and coercion - control of millions of human beings as well as each individual one.
The skill and ability to stay in office, whether a senator, commissar, king, or president, depends on how well they manipulate the people in their domain...usually in terms of how well They have them fooled, as Machiavelli postulated the game.
There are no exceptions to these generalizations : all societies, whether primitive or the most sophisticated and "advanced" today, are run entirely within the framework of the rules of the game of Political government and Economics. The inherent anti- social features of these rules have been obvious to all thinking people throughout recorded history--especially to those humanistically concerned.
All they have been able to do is hope for a more benign ruler to be born, or to vote for more "honest" politicians...the wishful thinking futility of these purported choices and alternatives is dreary reading.
At this time respect is not something to give politicians. Or at least only by people that enjoy fiddling while Rome begins to burn.
The notion that a radical is one who hates his country is naive and usually idiotic. He is, more likely, one who loves his country more than the rest of us, and is thus more disturbed than the rest of us when he sees it debauched. He is not a bad citizen turning to crime; he is a good citizen driven to despair.
Reverend G R Gleig, survived the First Anglo-Afghan War to write in 1843:
...a war begun for no wise purpose, carried on with a strange mixture of rashness and timidity, brought to a close after suffering and disaster, without much glory attached either to the government which directed, or the great body of troops which waged it. Not one benefit, political or military, has Britain acquired with this war. Our eventual evacuation of the country resembled the retreat of an army defeated.
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My once-great country's only hope was to remove Bush from office before his term expired to permit the early repair of the devastation he created. Now the USA is on life support.
Charleton Heston, R.I.P. !
ReplyDeleteYuck! Chas Heston, G.R.H.B. (got rot his bones). He was the great gunster, friend of gang-bangers, crimes of passion, presidential assassins, etc.
ReplyDeleteNo, Pick a kinder, gentler conservative. A smart and foxy one, like . . . . . Dana Perino!
Foxy? More like fauxy.
ReplyDeleteAttorney General John Ashcroft, about regular White House discussions of torture, for acknowledging,
ReplyDelete"Why are we talking about this in the White House? History will not judge this kindly."
Gets my nod.
Gen. Colin Powell should get some props. Powell told Diane Sawyer on "Good Morning America" that he's still undecided about his presidential preference:
ReplyDeleteI'm looking at all three candidates, I know them all very, very well. I consider myself a friend of each and every one of them. And I have not decided who I will vote for yet.
Powell went out of his way to compliment Obama for his speech on race that followed in the aftermath of the Rev. Wright:
Rev. Wright is also somebody who has made enormous contributions in his community and has turned a lot of lives around. And so, I have to put that in context with these very offensive comments that he made, which I reject out of hand.
I think that Sen. Obama handled the issue well . . . he didn't look the other way. He didn't wait for the, for the, you know, for the storm to go over. He went on television, and I thought, gave a very, very thoughtful, direct speech. And he didn't abandon the minister who brought him closer to his faith.
It was a good (speech). I admired him for giving it. And I agreed with much of what he said.
Powell expressed concern over the burden an extended stay in Iraq would put on the troops and the country's military forces:
It's going to be far more than the 100,000 that Secretary [of Defense Robert] Gates was hoping for. It's going to be like 130,000 or 140,000. That is an extremely difficult burden for the United States Army, the United States Marine Corps, to keep up.
We have responsibilities in Afghanistan. And in some ways, Afghanistan is more difficult than Iraq. You have the tribal problems. You had drug lords running around ... and al Qaeda and the Taliban are making a resurgence.
I'll tell you what they're all going to face — whichever one of them becomes president on Jan. 21 of 2009 — they will face a military force, a United States military force, that cannot sustain, continue to sustain, 140,000 people deployed in Iraq, and the 20 (to) 25,000 people we have deployed in Afghanistan, and our other deployments.
Give the General a hand? He's trying, isn't he?
I never thought I'd say this, but Ashcroft gets my vote too. The only one of the gang of thugs with an ounce of scruples. Excellent choice emily. He was also the one sick in the hospital that would not let Gonzales strong arm the acting Atty Gen. to say no to warrantless wiretaps, etc. Have I got that right? Quick before he dies. You can always use Colin Powell later when he endorses Obama.
ReplyDeleteFor my money, I'll nominate General Powell's former chief of staff, Retired Army Colonel Lawrence Wilkerson. Col. Wilkerson is the guy who said of the GOP, "They Have Stolen My Party and I Want it Back!" Last night on Keith Olbermann's Countdown, the Colonel was firing all chambers:
ReplyDeleteI don’t believe Iraq is the central front in the war on terror. It is a civil war that we are currently mediating.
It (the surge) has not failed in terms of the strategic decision that he (Bush) and Vice-President Cheney reached in the summer of 2007. That was to put enough forces in Iraq, the commander in Iraq, and the ambassador in Iraq and use those forces and diplomacy to keep major damage from being done to the Republican party and further damage being done to the White House so that he can pass Iraq to the next president. I think that’s the strategic decision that they made and it looks like they are going to get away with it.
... irreparable damage being done to the fabric of the institutional army by multiple extended tours in Iraq. Among the symptoms are record suicide rates among veterans, a severe shortage of middle-rank soldiers (particularly captains), and lowered standards resulting in many new recruits lacking high school diplomas and having multiple criminal convictions, reminiscent of the worst days of the Vietnam War.
When Olbermann called the President on including several blatantly false statements in his address, Wilkerson finished the interview with this parting shot:
Keith, you are talking about an administration that treats the truth as if it was a commodity as disposable as plastic gloves.
Boris, don't be so quick to dismiss assassins. This is an old profession that could still do some good in the modern world. Think what good to millions in Zimbabwe would be done by a single, well-placed sniper bullet. Robert Mugabe is a good example of an utterly useless piece of human scum. Some people need killin'
ReplyDeleteWilkerson:
ReplyDeleteBush treating the truth as if it was a commodity as disposable as plastic gloves
Jesus, that's a memorable line. My vote goes to Larry W.!
Vig, I've come back to your place to thank you for the kind words on "Maggy." It's the first chapter of a novel.
ReplyDeleteWhat I really want to know now that I'm here is how you get petro to say half way intelligent things on your site, but he talks like a fourteen year old boy on mine. What the fucks up with that?
Bush treating the truth as if it was a commodity as disposable as plastic gloves.
ReplyDeleteThat is fantastic!
Wilkerson gets a nod from me, too. But Ashcroft deserves some creds, also. After all, his red flag was raised while he was in the service of the Wehrmacht, as opposed to after thoughts in the aftermath.
ReplyDeleteWilkerson gets my vote.
ReplyDeleteI have known John Ashcroft for years. He is quite capable but like Bush he is blinded by religious fervor. He is a Jesus Jumper Extraordinaire and this has clouded his judgment and good common sense time and again.
ReplyDeleteIt is really tough to think of a good republican and I know there has to be a few so I will go with Wilkerson for that remark alone if for nothing else.
Petro I agree with you. Some people just need killin'....
How about any Repuglican that has been dead for over ten years. I think we're finally safe fr4om that group.
ReplyDeleteWell, I think I'll follow tomcat's suggestion: it's a good one. My nominee is Dwight D. Eisenhower:
ReplyDelete* Oversaw the cease-fire of the Korean War.
* Enlarged the Social Security program.
* Began the Interstate Highway System.
* Supported the 1954 Brown v. Board of Education of Topeka U.S. Supreme Court decision, in which segregated ("separate but equal") schools were ruled to be unconstitutional.
* He described the Cold War saying: "We face a hostile ideology global in scope, atheistic in character, ruthless in purpose and insidious in method..." and warned about what he saw as unjustified government spending proposals and continued with a warning that "we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex... Only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and goals, so that security and liberty may prosper together."
(From Wiki)
Damn, they sure don't make 'em like they used to!
Oh, and speaking of CH, I provided a tombstone.
ReplyDeleteWhy respect a republican or a democrat... both are out to destroy America. Both are run by the same globalism cabal. There is virtually no difference between them. Only in name. The exact same special interest groups control both.
ReplyDeleteWhy would any one respect a politician ? The only thing they are interested in is giving you the shaft.
No doubt this little message will fall on deaf ears.
Nominations are closed. We have a clear winner!
ReplyDeleteClosed or not I'm with Stella. I forgot about Ike. I was actually going to say Nixon on my earlier post just to gauge the reaction but decided against it. I must say, however, other than being a vulgar crook he did do some good things:-)
ReplyDeleteWhat is it with these people? Madmike and Stella think the only good Republicans are dead Republicans? This is typical of lefties. So typical.
ReplyDeleteThanks, madmike. You are right about Nixon's foreign policy.
ReplyDeletePetro, I challenge you to name a living Republican. Even you cited Charlton Heston as the nominee for "Respect-a-Repulican" day. Uh, word. He's dead, too.
I can name two. John Dean, but I think he wised up and became a liberal after getting slammed by Nixon. I don't agree with his politics, but Ben Stein does crack me up. ("Bueller!")
There. Let's see how well you can do, Petro. Good luck: you'll need it.
Charlton Heston lives, so don't fuck with Chuck.
ReplyDeletePolitics, regardless of what label it goes under, is fundamentally concerned with the manipulation and coercion - control of millions of human beings as well as each individual one.
ReplyDeleteThe skill and ability to stay in office, whether a senator, commissar, king, or president, depends on how well they manipulate the people in their domain...usually in terms of how well They have them fooled, as Machiavelli postulated the game.
There are no exceptions to these generalizations :
all societies, whether primitive or the most sophisticated and "advanced" today, are run entirely within the framework of the rules of the game of Political government and Economics.
The inherent anti- social features of these rules have been obvious to all thinking people throughout recorded history--especially to those humanistically concerned.
All they have been able to do is hope for a more benign ruler to be born, or to vote for more "honest" politicians...the wishful thinking futility of these purported choices and alternatives is dreary reading.
At this time respect is not something to give politicians.
Or at least only by people that enjoy fiddling while Rome begins to burn.
Petro brings us great news: Charlton Heston dies! Hollywood's GOP population plummets 25%. Only three to go.
ReplyDeleteKeep California deep blue.
What is it with those Rethuglicans? Petro thinks a dead Rethuglican is still alive. This is typical of right-wingers. So typical.
ReplyDelete