I Went to Hear Barack Obama Speak in my Home Town Today
And, it was another beautiful day in Paradise!
I was able to see everything very clearly. Hillary would make a good president. Senator Edwards would make a better president. But Obama is headed for greatness.He's the one to bring America Barack!
I'm worried about his talk about religion. That was introduced by Bush as a major part of his political philosophy, with the result that God's Word has been accepted by a large proportion of the American population as the defining rule and law of this country.
I can understand that many people are appalled by such matters as abortion and homosexuality. If they do not accept such matters, they do not have to make them a part of their lives (although over-population will eventually force itself one way or another upon the views of all humanity), but no one should have the right to pass laws based upon their religious beliefs that control the rights of others.
In a year when many Republicans are fed up with their party, more than a handful of office holders at the top will be forced to- or volunteer to- retire, how many GOP voters will cross the road, and say,
'we might as well kill two birds with one stone? If we're going to toss in the towel for the next four years so that the Grand Old Party can be cleansed, why not, at the same time elect a Afro-American to the White House? What better way to restore the image of the Party of Lincoln than by laying Old Jim Crow to rest at long last? What better a time? And who better than Obama?'
We need another fruit cake like Obama like we need a whole in the head.
Religious automatons are definitely very creepy, and he is a died in the wool one.
Very adroit comment Miss Bill. While it is thought that religion should be a free for all concerning belief, politicians have a tendency to use it to control, manipulate, and deceive.
The Los Angeles Times describes the crowd of about 5,000 as
a cross-section of hip Santa Barbara -- overwhelmingly white, fashionably turned-out surfers, high-end bohemians, college students and onetime '60s activists.
Pinks, IMHO, Obama has the quick and easy wit of a JFK. But in these days of video cam, he's also got to be careful.
Ziem, notwithstanding NY Mama's sensitivities, I agree with you. I do not find Obama's religion an obtrusive element in his campaign.
M.D. knowing how you feel, how accepting would you be of an Obama-Clinton ticket? Don't you see her best in the 2nd slot because she's the more Cheney-esque of all the Dems?
Fred Thompson enters the race promising to keep another Clinton out of the White House.
There's a message designed to resonate with the electorate after the last seven years. Imagine another eight years of economic prosperity, budget surpluses, civil liberties and the respect of the world. Another eight years of a competent FEMA, under-used Veterans hospitals without roaches or endless streams of seriously wounded soldiers, the city of New Orleans, and the biggest lie to come out of Washington concerning a soiled dress!
I just don't think Obama/Clinton is the least bit viable. Clinton's been running as a she-demagogue so I can't see her doing it and Obama would be eclipsed by that image and decades of her baggage (the Mediocre Media would be sure of that). It would also fuse Obama permanently with the DLC, a corrupt and very Republican organization. I am hoping he manages to stay relatively free of DLC influence, although I'm very sure he has some of their staffers on his campaign (If I were him, I would watch his back with those guys).
That funny... You think you will accomplish something by voting for one of these retards in discussion ?
What would you suggest? Complete destruction of all our institutions? That's been tried in Iraq and elsewhere, usually doesn't work out so well.
Haven't decided who I'll vote for but it will be someone who has a chance of winning. Whoever it is they won't be perfect, no one is.
The alternative would be to piss & moan and do nothing at which point I'll just move to Mexico or Costa Rica and ignore the entire mess. If you truly feel the situation is that hopeless its something you might consider.
I have considered a lot of things, and the United States is the only place where real social change can happen. Real social change is not the system we now have that is going to destroy us. I don`t know why your so negative, but you sound jaded. My opinion. We have the know how, the installed Technology, and the population to create an interesting creative society here for North America.
You are sounding like a typical person that will settle for slop, when they could have a good meal.
Skip: I am somewhat jaded but I'm not hell bent on destruction of everything which is what you seem to be.
You mention developing a "creative" society but all I've ever seen you post is your desire to destroy everything.
There aren't any "utopia's" and I figured out I couldn't have everything I wanted, exactly when and how I want it when I was about 3 years old. Most "typical" people have figured that one out as well.
Sorry but I see absolutely nothing to be gained by casting a vote for a dog whereas there is a reasonable probability of gaining something by casting a vote for a candidate who has a chance of actually winning.
The notion that a radical is one who hates his country is naive and usually idiotic. He is, more likely, one who loves his country more than the rest of us, and is thus more disturbed than the rest of us when he sees it debauched. He is not a bad citizen turning to crime; he is a good citizen driven to despair.
Reverend G R Gleig, survived the First Anglo-Afghan War to write in 1843:
...a war begun for no wise purpose, carried on with a strange mixture of rashness and timidity, brought to a close after suffering and disaster, without much glory attached either to the government which directed, or the great body of troops which waged it. Not one benefit, political or military, has Britain acquired with this war. Our eventual evacuation of the country resembled the retreat of an army defeated.
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My once-great country's only hope was to remove Bush from office before his term expired to permit the early repair of the devastation he created. Now the USA is on life support.
Sounds like you enjoyed tourself.
ReplyDeleteI'm worried about his talk about religion. That was introduced by Bush as a major part of his political philosophy, with the result that God's Word has been accepted by a large proportion of the American population as the defining rule and law of this country.
ReplyDeleteI can understand that many people are appalled by such matters as abortion and homosexuality. If they do not accept such matters, they do not have to make them a part of their lives (although over-population will eventually force itself one way or another upon the views of all humanity), but no one should have the right to pass laws based upon their religious beliefs that control the rights of others.
In a year when many Republicans are fed up with their party, more than a handful of office holders at the top will be forced to- or volunteer to- retire, how many GOP voters will cross the road, and say,
ReplyDelete'we might as well kill two birds with one stone? If we're going to toss in the towel for the next four years so that the Grand Old Party can be cleansed, why not, at the same time elect a Afro-American to the White House? What better way to restore the image of the Party of Lincoln than by laying Old Jim Crow to rest at long last? What better a time? And who better than Obama?'
That's a question, so here's your question mark:
?????????
Right on Little Bill.
ReplyDeleteWe need another fruit cake like Obama like we need a whole in the head.
Religious automatons are definitely very creepy, and he is a died in the wool one.
Very adroit comment Miss Bill. While it is thought that religion should be a free for all concerning belief, politicians have a tendency to use it to control, manipulate, and deceive.
The Los Angeles Times describes the crowd of about 5,000 as
ReplyDeletea cross-section of hip Santa Barbara -- overwhelmingly white, fashionably turned-out surfers, high-end bohemians, college students and onetime '60s activists.
Which category did you fall into, Vigil?
I'd like to see Obama speak. I'd much rather have Obama as President than Edwards.
ReplyDeleteI'm jealous. Not one candidate is planning a visit to my neck of the woods.
ReplyDeleteObama/Edwards
Edwards/Obama
Woo-hoo!
I'm so waiting for Obama or Edwards to show signs of confident humor in their campaigns. Did you see any, Vigilante?
ReplyDeleteI like Obama. I've heard him talk and religious or not, he doesn't bring that into his politics. He's vocal about stem cell research, which I love!
ReplyDeleteObama/Edwards or Edwards/Obama - I'll take either.
It creeps me out too littlebill but they're all doing it, it wins votes, so I'm mostly ignoring it for lack of an alternative.
ReplyDeleteNot your Mama, why don`t you just do a write candidate as an alternative ?
ReplyDeleteYou could write in the stray dog that may be roaming around your neighborhood. At least that dog won`t bullshit you.
Funny how Americans will settle for any stray political dog like an Edwards or Obama, that are obviously shills for Big Religion, and Big Business.
Pinks, IMHO, Obama has the quick and easy wit of a JFK. But in these days of video cam, he's also got to be careful.
ReplyDeleteZiem, notwithstanding NY Mama's sensitivities, I agree with you. I do not find Obama's religion an obtrusive element in his campaign.
M.D. knowing how you feel, how accepting would you be of an Obama-Clinton ticket? Don't you see her best in the 2nd slot because she's the more Cheney-esque of all the Dems?
Fred Thompson enters the race promising to keep another Clinton out of the White House.
ReplyDeleteThere's a message designed to resonate with the electorate after the last seven years. Imagine another eight years of economic prosperity, budget surpluses, civil liberties and the respect of the world. Another eight years of a competent FEMA, under-used Veterans hospitals without roaches or endless streams of seriously wounded soldiers, the city of New Orleans, and the biggest lie to come out of Washington concerning a soiled dress!
Save us, Fred!
skip: because it's the political equivalent of giving someone the finger. Might feel good but accomplishes nothing.
ReplyDeleteAn Obama-Clinton ticket?
ReplyDeleteHillary as VP?
Sure. Why not.
I just don't think Obama/Clinton is the least bit viable. Clinton's been running as a she-demagogue so I can't see her doing it and Obama would be eclipsed by that image and decades of her baggage (the Mediocre Media would be sure of that). It would also fuse Obama permanently with the DLC, a corrupt and very Republican organization. I am hoping he manages to stay relatively free of DLC influence, although I'm very sure he has some of their staffers on his campaign (If I were him, I would watch his back with those guys).
ReplyDeleteVigilante, please note that my URL has changed, thanks!!
ReplyDeleteNot Your Mama said...
ReplyDeleteskip: because it's the political equivalent of giving someone the finger. Might feel good but accomplishes nothing.
That funny... You think you will accomplish something by voting for one of these retards in discussion ?
Ha ha. Edwards, Obama, Hillary, or Fred ?
That funny... You think you will accomplish something by voting for one of these retards in discussion ?
ReplyDeleteWhat would you suggest? Complete destruction of all our institutions? That's been tried in Iraq and elsewhere, usually doesn't work out so well.
Haven't decided who I'll vote for but it will be someone who has a chance of winning. Whoever it is they won't be perfect, no one is.
The alternative would be to piss & moan and do nothing at which point I'll just move to Mexico or Costa Rica and ignore the entire mess. If you truly feel the situation is that hopeless its something you might consider.
I have considered a lot of things, and the United States is the only place where real social change can happen. Real social change is not the system we now have that is going to destroy us.
ReplyDeleteI don`t know why your so negative, but you sound jaded. My opinion.
We have the know how, the installed Technology, and the population to create an interesting creative society here for North America.
You are sounding like a typical person that will settle for slop, when they could have a good meal.
Wow!
ReplyDeleteQuite a crowd. Color me envious of your adventure to hear him speak. I am all about Obama. All the time.
Give me Obama or give me...well, any other Democrat. But please, give me Obama.
Skip:
ReplyDeleteI am somewhat jaded but I'm not hell bent on destruction of everything which is what you seem to be.
You mention developing a "creative" society but all I've ever seen you post is your desire to destroy everything.
There aren't any "utopia's" and I figured out I couldn't have everything I wanted, exactly when and how I want it when I was about 3 years old. Most "typical" people have figured that one out as well.
Sorry but I see absolutely nothing to be gained by casting a vote for a dog whereas there is a reasonable probability of gaining something by casting a vote for a candidate who has a chance of actually winning.
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ReplyDeleteSkip Sievert is suspended for gratuitous profanity.